Comments on: Why “The Mary Sue?” https://www.themarysue.com/why-the-mary-sue/ The Nexus of Pop Culture and the Uncharted Universe Tue, 29 Jul 2014 06:49:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=2024.30 By: Leela Debris https://www.themarysue.com/why-the-mary-sue/#comment-293222 Tue, 29 Jul 2014 06:49:00 +0000 https://www.themarysue.com/?p=1092#comment-293222 A article from the wall stree journal entitled “The online world of female desires” Written by Ogi Ogas (here is the link) http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052748704463804576291181510459902

suggest that traditionally speaking women have desires as well as men, however the needs that women desire are more about emotion, and romance and one of the best ways to indulge in such things for many would be in the form of a narrative.

In essence Ogas seems to imply that fantastical romance centered narratives allows women to imagine themselves in the place of the beautiful female protagonist which is the driving force behind the high numbers of women indulging in the literary genre that has come to be known as the romance novel. Ogas’s article explains how the romance novel and it’s impact has influenced the online fanfiction community. “All romance novels, whether written by the likes of Jane Austen, Nora Roberts or Stephenie Meyer, employ a narrative formula that follows the gradual elucidation of the hero’s inner character, leading to an emotional epiphany between hero and heroine. On this journey, the heroine—and the reader—investigates the character of the hero. The goal of a romance novel’s heroine is never sex for its own sake, much less impersonal sex with strangers. All romance novels end with a “happily ever after”: a marriage or committed long-term partnership.In addition to providing a new platform for traditional romance tales, the Web has fueled an explosion of stories written by a highly interactive community of female amateurs: a genre called “fan fiction”(The Online World of Female Desire). The longing to be beautiful, loved, accepted, the desire of being the object of an unobtainable ideal beautiful, successful man for many including myself is an unattainable fantasy. A fantasy that many will never have the pleasure of experiencing and in knowing this so many turn to fanfiction as a means to experience what they otherwise will never experience in reality.

I love Mary Sue and I love my Mary Sues,, what I do not like it poorly written ones lol

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By: Tracy Jay https://www.themarysue.com/why-the-mary-sue/#comment-128685 Tue, 10 Dec 2013 01:43:00 +0000 https://www.themarysue.com/?p=1092#comment-128685 Mary Sue, I love you!!
You always have such interesting news to tell me and from a wonderfully diverse feminist perspective. Often you make me think, “Finally, people talking about awesome topics without letting the problematic aspects go unchecked or unnoticed”.
Great job to all of you!

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By: Anonymous https://www.themarysue.com/why-the-mary-sue/#comment-125340 Fri, 22 Nov 2013 02:46:00 +0000 https://www.themarysue.com/?p=1092#comment-125340 Recently I was extremely low on money and debts were eating me from all sides! That was UNTIL I decided to make money.. on the internet! I went to surveymoneymaker dot net, and started filling in surveys for cash, and surely I’ve been far more able to pay my bills!! I’m so glad, I did this! – 7ctm

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By: Anonymous https://www.themarysue.com/why-the-mary-sue/#comment-63340 Fri, 28 Dec 2012 03:48:00 +0000 https://www.themarysue.com/?p=1092#comment-63340 When I was a kid, I imagined that I went to Hogwarts and could do magic with just my hands, and had wings that changed color. Oh, and Harry was in love with me. Obviously.
I’ve been reading this sight for a while, and now when I think Mary Sue, I think badass women who have a voice.

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By: Lisa Liscoumb https://www.themarysue.com/why-the-mary-sue/#comment-62509 Tue, 18 Dec 2012 14:35:00 +0000 https://www.themarysue.com/?p=1092#comment-62509 In reply to Camille.

“…explain Dorothy because without her, there really is no story…”

You’ve just explained it yourself. She comes into this pre-existing world (Dorothy and the Wizard in Oz was the fifth Oz book Baum wrote) and not only manages to get all the other characters to “fall” for her – in a platonic way, of course – but proceeds to solve all their problems, and almost single-handedly get rid of the two main “villains” of the world.

I do have to wonder, though, is she really a Mary Sue as she was created by the author of the world, as opposed to a fan?

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By: Lisa Liscoumb https://www.themarysue.com/why-the-mary-sue/#comment-62508 Tue, 18 Dec 2012 14:29:00 +0000 https://www.themarysue.com/?p=1092#comment-62508 In reply to Michelle Faid.

Wow, you really don’t get the point of this site, do you? This is not a gamer site, it’s a site that celebrates the achievements and interests of women with a wide variety of “nontraditional” interests and I, for one, am glad I found it.

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By: Stephanie Bay https://www.themarysue.com/why-the-mary-sue/#comment-55252 Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:17:00 +0000 https://www.themarysue.com/?p=1092#comment-55252 In reply to Michelle Faid.

This isn’t a “gamer” site, is it? I see mostly nerdy post unrelated to any games…

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By: Stephanie Bay https://www.themarysue.com/why-the-mary-sue/#comment-55251 Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:13:00 +0000 https://www.themarysue.com/?p=1092#comment-55251 In reply to Marysue.

A childhood friend of mine – her mother’s name is Mary Sue. She was a single mother for most of my childhood, and the entire neighborhood seemed to call her “mom.” She was an amazing woman. Nothing she couldn’t do.

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By: Мария Щербакова https://www.themarysue.com/why-the-mary-sue/#comment-15969 Sun, 30 Oct 2011 10:42:00 +0000 https://www.themarysue.com/?p=1092#comment-15969 In reply to Marysue.

hah) I’m just Mary. But all of my friends call me Mary Sue:DD
I’m thinking of calling my daughter(if I’ll have one) Sue…

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By: Мария Щербакова https://www.themarysue.com/why-the-mary-sue/#comment-15968 Sun, 30 Oct 2011 10:36:00 +0000 https://www.themarysue.com/?p=1092#comment-15968 I don’t think Bella from Twilight is a MarySue! She doesn’t have enough power in her mind…em…probably I’m not the FAN of her. But I really LOVE  MarySue!!!! <3

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By: Camille https://www.themarysue.com/why-the-mary-sue/#comment-12287 Sun, 18 Sep 2011 02:51:00 +0000 https://www.themarysue.com/?p=1092#comment-12287 I think that Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz is not a Mary Sue.  I could see the other examples you set, but explain Dorothy because without her, there really is no story.  Twilight annoys the hell out of me with Bella.  She’s plain Bella Swan with no personality and bland looks that has the attention of a werewolf and a vampire.  Unreal. I had to sit through three of those films and I wanted to shoot myself every time.  I did this for a family member.  I am not seeing the next one.  

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By: Jess M https://www.themarysue.com/why-the-mary-sue/#comment-8749 Sat, 30 Jul 2011 11:35:00 +0000 https://www.themarysue.com/?p=1092#comment-8749 I just arrive here minutes ago, but you already have my heart.
Keep it up!

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By: Michelle Faid https://www.themarysue.com/why-the-mary-sue/#comment-4630 Fri, 20 May 2011 10:15:00 +0000 https://www.themarysue.com/?p=1092#comment-4630  Uhm. This site missed the point so badly that I feel like it might be on another continent. You want a “girl gamer site” named for the stereotypically worst features of a narcissistic, attention hungry, immature girl gamer? No thanks. I’ll stick to going to get my gamer news on all those other perfectly valid sites instead of being segregated and labeled. 

Mary Sues may very well be something to laugh at in retrospect, and we’re certainly all guilty of them. I’m certainly no exception. However, this is a bit like going to a women’s sports page called, “The Borrowed Letter Jacket” or a women’s car enthusiast site called, “Eyeliner While Driving”. Crappy behavior shouldn’t become a glorified penultimate of a gender.

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By: Matthew Frank https://www.themarysue.com/why-the-mary-sue/#comment-2419 Sat, 09 Apr 2011 16:55:00 +0000 https://www.themarysue.com/?p=1092#comment-2419 very cool.

has anyone written fanfic of mulder’s sister?

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By: Kate https://www.themarysue.com/why-the-mary-sue/#comment-1746 Mon, 28 Mar 2011 22:55:00 +0000 https://www.themarysue.com/?p=1092#comment-1746 I love this site and I am going to follow it loyally.
Still not sure I like the name. :/

But maybe I can move past the bad connotations and reclaim it, as it should be?…

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By: Marysue https://www.themarysue.com/why-the-mary-sue/#comment-829 Tue, 15 Mar 2011 01:47:00 +0000 https://www.themarysue.com/?p=1092#comment-829 My name really is Marysue…this is fascinating..

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By: Anotherjetso https://www.themarysue.com/why-the-mary-sue/#comment-744 Sat, 12 Mar 2011 01:42:00 +0000 https://www.themarysue.com/?p=1092#comment-744 I’m not sure I want to self identify as a Mary Sue. I can’t help but feel my ambitions don’t begin and end with wrapping the world around my little finger. I can identify with the sentiment that ‘Mary Sue’ is simply a ‘female character who is more competent than you (read: male audience) arbitrarily feel she should be. But still…

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By: JustKiddin https://www.themarysue.com/why-the-mary-sue/#comment-574 Tue, 08 Mar 2011 18:22:00 +0000 https://www.themarysue.com/?p=1092#comment-574 As a male programmer/geek who happened across this site googling Linux stuff, I want to commend your mascot’s unattainably hourglassy figure and confident, I’m-a-little-tea-pot-check-out-my-butt pose. You should get your readers to send in pictures of themselves as they attempt to emulate same.

Did you know that the male brain can be far more readily aroused by animated imagery?
Think Jessica Rabbit.

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By: Anonymous https://www.themarysue.com/why-the-mary-sue/#comment-514 Mon, 07 Mar 2011 05:05:00 +0000 https://www.themarysue.com/?p=1092#comment-514 Do you guys have a list of all the female characters used in your header? I know most of them, but some of them leave me scratching my head.

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By: AmandaB https://www.themarysue.com/why-the-mary-sue/#comment-381 Fri, 04 Mar 2011 04:48:00 +0000 https://www.themarysue.com/?p=1092#comment-381 Great site – Love it! And the sad thing about the Rosalind Franklin story is that it’s 2011 and things haven’t changed much at all. If the guys I work with get up in your grill, it’s called “passion”. If I do it, it’s called “hormones”. Stupid penises.

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